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xombiekitty

I have a couple of idea to stop the fights about housing streets... Make them so that house owners can place resources of their choice on the street, but they cannot harvest from those resources. Everyone has to harvest from other people's streets, the streets of UR, or their backyards. No more arguments! Either that, or lose the streets altogether. When you teleport to visit someone you land on the doorstep. Again, no more arguments!


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Pascale

This is an intriguing idea. Counterintuitive, but interesting.


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chilirlw

This is an interesting idea, but I don't like it. I rarely harvest from my own street, but I do think that people would have less of an "ownership" feeling and might not bother being good stewards of their home street if your changes were implemented. There would be less of an "all mine" feeling, surely, but also less motivation to put stuff out there and care for it I think

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  1. xombiekitty

    If people are not motivated to put things out for others because they can no longer keep it for themselves as an extension of their backyard, brilliant! Then they'd stop having a go at people for merely using the streets as TS intended, and encourage through achievement badges, etc. As for not caring for the resources, I'm fine with that. While I always fix broken resources on my street, I'm fine with fixing them on other people's too.

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Kochanski

I rarely harvest from my own street, only when I can be bothered to do so, so I'd be quite happy with this sort of system. I'm far more inclined to wander onto others' streets to harvest and, of course, leave a tidy little iMG bonus behind me. I'm sure folk will find plenty of other things to whine about, even with a system like your suggestion in place. Ever the optimist!

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  1. xombiekitty

    I'm the same. I very rarely harvest from my own street. On the rare occassion I do it's usually just because a rock is on 1% so I turn it to a project on purpose so that I can fix it and leave the rock at full health for my visitors.


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Sticky Keys

Why would harvesting from your own street even be considered an issue to alter? What fights are you talking about? People spend their own iMG to put items on their streets. Why should they not be able to harvest?

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  1. xombiekitty

    The issue is actually the fighting occurring between those that think they should be the only ones to use the resources on their home street, and those that are visiting other players and using the resources as TS intended (through achievement badges, img implementation, and stating so in forum threads). I'm suggesting options that could stop the fighting. I am actually fine with how it currently is... except for the fighting.


  2. Yendor

    I think you missed a massive flamewar that started when people began blocking visitors for not using their resources "properly". There is currently a long-running thread in the general forums where people are defending their actions based on, for example, not wanting strangers to harvest "their" herbs that are in a garden on their home street


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Yendor

The issue, such as it is, is solved already. Tiny Speck has made clear through game mechanics and explicitly stated in the new player tutorial that home streets are public. If players can't handle that, or don't want people buying things they put for sale, then that is their problem.

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  1. xombiekitty

    If it is solved, and TS are teaching new players that home streets are public, then what I would like is for TS to stomp on any threads about home streets that pop up on the forum and start attacking players that are playing within the rules of the game. I am incredibly annoyed that it's allowed to continue. TS state that we're not allowed to call players out, which apparently means even just addressing them by name in a post or not including a name but including a link to their post, but apparently people are allowed to make blanket statements about those that visit other people's home streets and name call, etc. If people were just blocking others and moving on I could leave it be too, but it's things like being abused in game and constantly reading the same nastiness on the forums that I can't accept. I have reported people to TS before, and I'm half way through quite a lengthy complaint right now, but I shouldn't have to point out to TS that it's a not only confusing to new and old players alike, but a double standard to leave threads like that open and growing.


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Flowerry Pott

I'm glad that you are thinking of ideas to help minimize arguments. I don't think this is the right solution, though. I think TS already has the right solution with things as they are now. The problem isn't even people who dislike the present system and speak out about it (they have a right to have opinions and express them). The problem is people who want the game to enforce their own particular style of play on everyone. They already have the means to get all the private resources they want, i.e. make the choice to not put any resources on the home street, or only resources they don't particularly care about. They want to make it be only one way, instead of about making choices and having the freedom to do so.


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Botia

BTW I got a staff response this morning that essentially said that fighting back against bullies was wrong, and people aren't supposed to defend themselves. Wow.

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  1. xombiekitty

    Wow. That is just not right. I wish there was a HR department of TS for player disputes ;) I can't wait to see the response I get to my complaint then. I guess if I just get banned you'll know they didn't like it. I want TS to fix all the rot or refund my hundreds of dollars that I have spent supporting the business they claimed to be, not the one the are shaping up to be. Hey, does this count as calling out TS in a post?

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  2. WindBorn

    I'd be extremely surprised if the response included the words "fighting back", "bullies", or "defend". That sounds like an interpretation of what they actually said.

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  3. EiraFae

    That's probably not really what they said. But still wow


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Errata Stigmata

I personally find it useful to have things on my doorstep that I need & can harvest easily regularly - for example, I have mostly spice trees on my street, as I have huge lag problems with Ix. To me spending iMG to put something on your street that you then can't harvest makes absolutely no sense, & if you couldn't harvest I'm assuming you also wouldn't be able to restore. Why would you want to possibly come home to a street all the time that was uncared for with unrestored items or dying trees & animals if not enough people passed by to regularly pet & water, etc?


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Ayasta

I hardly harvest the 15 spice trees in my yard, though I will water and pet if they need it. The only things I harvest is my pigs and chickens. This idea doesn't seem prudent at all, in so many ways. It'd make a lot of people lazy and they'd leave their home streets desolate or just have stuff out for the iMG badges and then tear it all down. There's already a proposal or idea that TS wants to make MORE streets for us. The thing with people is that they see their name on their home street and think it's theirs by default. I think some folks just don't want to share, or they're just really greedy or whatever the case may be. Eventually it'll be ingrained into some people's brains that this IS a Massivly MULTIPLAYER Online game which means yes, people are going to be on their streets harvesting or not, and that the only true private location you can have in this game is in your own house and backyard. I think some people are just so used to being solo that they just don't want to share. Whatever the case may be, I'm giving this idea a -1 because I don't like it.


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WalruZ

*I* have an idea about how to respond to people who get all pissy because the yellow crumb on their streets was yanked without even a how-do-you-do. Ignore them. Eventually they will either wise up or go away.

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